Nightfall Necromancer V.S. Ritualist - Guild Wars Forums

quadrophenik · Dec 14, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Im making a new nightfall character and i want armies of.......

So my dicision is between A necromancer or Ritualist. Any suggestions?

quickmonty · Dec 14, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52

Necro can have 10 minions at higher level than Rit, because a Rit can't use Superior (or any) Death runes, and is limited to max attribute of 12.

If you check the forums you will find a rather nice build for a Rit/N that runs minions, but as stated in first sentence they won't be as numerous or as powerful.

Shakti · Dec 14, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

If you are creating the char in NF you can't create a ritualist. Rits can only be created in Factions, so you'd have to create there then cross to nf.

street peddler · Dec 14, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

well seeing as you cant make a ritualist in nightfall, i think the answer is pretty clear..

Onarik Amrak · Dec 15, 2007, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Well... if you mean Nightfall Nec vs Factions Rit...

I'd choose the Nec because there are far more build options to choose from.

Lady Raenef · Dec 15, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

Go with Paragon. Forget minions, they get boring REALLY fast. At least, for me they did. I deleted my necromancer with all the necro skills, half the mesmer, 15k necrotic dyed black......yep.

Catrion-Leyt · Dec 15, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Ritualist. Only because I can't stand the way necromancers look and stand. The male's back is always hunched over and the female has strange faces. Ritualists stand up straight and you can hide their faces.

Oh, I guess I should mention something else about necromancers. I've created quite a few, minion master and not. The minions really do get boring. I hate just sitting back and watching my minions fight. Maybe if I was up there with them, doing something, I'd enjoy it. But as the minion master is, I will not make another.

Sujoy · Dec 15, 2007, 02:37 AM // 02:37

if you're limiting yourself to only minions, you are truely insulting the profession of necromancer, they are probably the most versatile profession out there... alot of fun when you get the hang of it.

undeadgun · Dec 15, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by Catrion-Leyt

Ritualist. Only because I can't stand the way necromancers look and stand. The male's back is always hunched over and the female has strange faces. Ritualists stand up straight and you can hide their faces.

Oh, I guess I should mention something else about necromancers. I've created quite a few, minion master and not. The minions really do get boring. I hate just sitting back and watching my minions fight. Maybe if I was up there with them, doing something, I'd enjoy it. But as the minion master is, I will not make another.

Doesnt Rit's spirit spammer same as a MM? however, one thing different between spirits and minions, minion got legs, spirits dont.

Sujoy · Dec 15, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Minions = meatshield

Spirits = not meatshield

that's a BIG difference

gremlin · Dec 15, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Really depends on how you want to use the minions imo

The necro MM has a better chance to get a small army going that mostly just fights and keep them going no matter what.
He can add conditions to the fight and do indirect damage with skills like death nova.
But but mostly he runs a pack of zombies.

The Ritualist has the ability to raise them and to heal, gain energy + do lightning damage when they are created.
So the rit probably uses undead more for the short term.

Boon of creation gives health and energy when you animate
Explosive growth does 56 lightning damage to 5 nearby foes
Spirits gift heals allies that are near the animated creature.
If you animate minions all the effects are X2 per body used.

Necro/Rit or Rit/Necro either will work.

Vinraith · Dec 15, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

if you're limiting yourself to only minions, you are truely insulting the profession of necromancer, they are probably the most versatile profession out there... alot of fun when you get the hang of it.

QFT Easily my favorte class because they can do damn near anything, including immitate any other casting class with excellent results. Boundless energy in most situations FTW.

Made In Ascalon · Dec 15, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

if you're limiting yourself to only minions, you are truely insulting the profession of necromancer, they are probably the most versatile profession out there... alot of fun when you get the hang of it.

I don't see how necros are more versatile than other casters, including rits.

Sujoy · Dec 15, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Well for starters, which other profession can give energy regen, life steal, spread mucho conditions, nuke shit that go BOOM when they die, use minions to control aggro, buff others (orders) and the list goes on... I'm just being lazy.

Redfeather1975 · Dec 15, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I didn't know necs could imitate all the other caster classes.
I thought that was the mesmer's forte.

Go for rit if you want to get your hands dirty.
Go for nec if you want to be someone's battery, a minion leash, or SS monkey.

I'm just kidding guys! I prefer necro's over rits, but rits are still lots o' fun.

Neriandal Freit · Dec 15, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

This is funny.

Anyone remember me having the exact same type of topic not long ago?

It turned out to be like three pages, with the ultimate decision landing on the Ritualist.

enmitee · Dec 15, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

I don't see how necros are more versatile than other casters, including rits.

n/rt healer rules the restorer rit

Moloch Vein · Dec 25, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

The original poster is asking what to create if he wants to run minions.

I think anyone not answering necromancer is being quite silly.

Curse You · Dec 25, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

The original poster is asking what to create if he wants to run minions.

I think anyone not answering necromancer is being quite silly.

Never seen a Rt/N MM have we? Works quite well.

Faer · Dec 25, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Works quite well.

Only when you ignore the fact that Ritualist MMs are pretty gimped due to their lack of Soul Reaping and the ability to hit 14 Death Magic.

The explosions are pretty cool though.

Dec 14, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47	#1
quadrophenik Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: Pyro Profession: W/P	Nightfall Necromancer V.S. Ritualist Im making a new nightfall character and i want armies of....... So my dicision is between A necromancer or Ritualist. Any suggestions?

Dec 15, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#7
Catrion-Leyt Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In this remote place called hell. Guild: Archons Ascendant [Arch] Profession: R/E	Ritualist. Only because I can't stand the way necromancers look and stand. The male's back is always hunched over and the female has strange faces. Ritualists stand up straight and you can hide their faces. Oh, I guess I should mention something else about necromancers. I've created quite a few, minion master and not. The minions really do get boring. I hate just sitting back and watching my minions fight. Maybe if I was up there with them, doing something, I'd enjoy it. But as the minion master is, I will not make another. Last edited by Catrion-Leyt; Dec 15, 2007 at 12:47 AM // 00:47..

Dec 14, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52	#2
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Necro can have 10 minions at higher level than Rit, because a Rit can't use Superior (or any) Death runes, and is limited to max attribute of 12. If you check the forums you will find a rather nice build for a Rit/N that runs minions, but as stated in first sentence they won't be as numerous or as powerful.

Dec 14, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#3
Shakti Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Home... Guild: Vier Reiter [Vier]	If you are creating the char in NF you can't create a ritualist. Rits can only be created in Factions, so you'd have to create there then cross to nf.

Dec 14, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#4
street peddler Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2007	well seeing as you cant make a ritualist in nightfall, i think the answer is pretty clear..

Dec 15, 2007, 12:27 AM // 00:27	#5
Onarik Amrak Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Astral Revenants Profession: P/W	Well... if you mean Nightfall Nec vs Factions Rit... I'd choose the Nec because there are far more build options to choose from.

Dec 15, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#6
Lady Raenef Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon, USA. Guild: Zero Mercy [zm] Profession: W/	Go with Paragon. Forget minions, they get boring REALLY fast. At least, for me they did. I deleted my necromancer with all the necro skills, half the mesmer, 15k necrotic dyed black......yep.

Dec 15, 2007, 02:37 AM // 02:37	#8
Sujoy Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.) Guild: The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW] Profession: Mo/	if you're limiting yourself to only minions, you are truely insulting the profession of necromancer, they are probably the most versatile profession out there... alot of fun when you get the hang of it.

Dec 15, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#10
Sujoy Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.) Guild: The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW] Profession: Mo/	Minions = meatshield Spirits = not meatshield that's a BIG difference

Dec 15, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53	#11
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	Really depends on how you want to use the minions imo The necro MM has a better chance to get a small army going that mostly just fights and keep them going no matter what. He can add conditions to the fight and do indirect damage with skills like death nova. But but mostly he runs a pack of zombies. The Ritualist has the ability to raise them and to heal, gain energy + do lightning damage when they are created. So the rit probably uses undead more for the short term. Boon of creation gives health and energy when you animate Explosive growth does 56 lightning damage to 5 nearby foes Spirits gift heals allies that are near the animated creature. If you animate minions all the effects are X2 per body used. Necro/Rit or Rit/Necro either will work.

Dec 15, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34	#14
Sujoy Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.) Guild: The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW] Profession: Mo/	Well for starters, which other profession can give energy regen, life steal, spread mucho conditions, nuke shit that go BOOM when they die, use minions to control aggro, buff others (orders) and the list goes on... I'm just being lazy.

Dec 15, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07	#15
Redfeather1975 Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Apartment#306 Guild: Rhedd Asylum Profession: Me/	I didn't know necs could imitate all the other caster classes. I thought that was the mesmer's forte. Go for rit if you want to get your hands dirty. Go for nec if you want to be someone's battery, a minion leash, or SS monkey. I'm just kidding guys! I prefer necro's over rits, but rits are still lots o' fun.

Dec 15, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17	#16
Neriandal Freit Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN) Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR] Profession: E/	This is funny. Anyone remember me having the exact same type of topic not long ago? It turned out to be like three pages, with the ultimate decision landing on the Ritualist.

Dec 25, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38	#18
Moloch Vein Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reactive Hexing Sucks Guild: [Thay] Profession: N/	The original poster is asking what to create if he wants to run minions. I think anyone not answering necromancer is being quite silly.